Crime Time
Episode 187
Jodi Arias Death Penalty Decision & Slender Man Trial Update
Jodi Arias has narrowly avoided the death penalty for the murder of Travis Alexander, and the public has reacted angrily to the 11:1 ruling by the jury. We discuss the decision, plus the Slender Man attempted murder trial of two 12-year-old girls in Wisconsin, their mindstate, and if they are capable of understanding the consequences of their attack on a friend. Children being tried as adults for crimes, and the case of Philip Chism who is 16 and accused of raping and murdering a teacher on school grounds is discussed. We also analyze the ongoing political tension with Iran, Obama’s ongoing negotiations with the state, and the efforts to free American Isis captive Kayla Mueller with Christopher Voss in this episode of Crime Time.
Episode Breakdown
00:00 Welcome Chris Voss to Crime Time with Allison Hope Weiner.
00:17 Jodi Arias death penalty trial was hung 11 to 1.
01:30 The public’s disturbing reaction to Jodi Arias not getting the death penalty.
03:00 The Slenderman case where two young girls, Morgan and Anissa, are being tried as adults.
05:50 What does Chris Voss take away from Anissa’s interrogation?
8:00 Morgan and Anissa killed their friend to prove Slenderman was real.
08:35 Can you tell if someone is a stone cold killer at the age of twelve?
10:45 The context of a killing needs to be taken into account when trying children.
12:15 Can twelve year olds really understand death?
13:55 What makes Voss think Morgan and Anissa knew what they were doing?
17:00 Always look at the circumstances of crime, investigation, and interrogation.
17:45 Philip Chism, 16, pleads not guilty in the sexual assault and murder of his teacher on school grounds.
19:04 Should Chism be tried as an adult?
20:25 What a juvenile does before a murder and how they react after are big factors for trying someone as an adult.
22:40 If someone is changed after committing a homicide, is it possible to change them back?
24:35 Are psychiatrists easily manipulated by killers, or is only a few?
26:52 Is there a possibility that a juvenile isn’t fully developed enough to be tried as an adult?
29:35 Is Obama being naive in negotiating with Iran? Is Netanyahu right?
32:05 Is the White House in over its head with the negotiations with Iran?
35:10 Did ISIS become more willing to negotiate for Kayla Mueller’s release after the Bowe Bergdahll exchange?
38:20 The Obama Administration did try to save Kayla Mueller and others who were captured.
39:35 Thank you and goodbye.
Guest Bio
Christopher Voss is the managing director of Institute Security’s Kidnapping Resolution Practice (since 2009) and a consultant with the Triad Consulting Group. He is also an adjunct Professor at USC’s Marshall School of Business. He was previously an adjunct lecturer at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business and the founding CEO of the Black Swan Group, a negotiation consulting firm.
A retired FBI agent, from 2000-07 Voss was Supervisory Special Agent in the FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit and the lead negotiator to the US National Security Council Hostage Working Group and the Group of Eight. For his negotiation work Voss has been awarded the Attorney General’s Award for Excellence in Law Enforcement and the FBI Agents Association Award for Distinguished and Exemplary Service.
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